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Xiaomi MiJia M365 E-scooter

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  • Very Poor
    11 days ago
    Works great as long as it does not come in contact with water. I've run in the rain twice.

    For the first time, it began to rust in a couple of places and the locking mechanism for the folding of the handlebars began to grate and scrape properly.

    After the second time it got its own life and the button you use to control all electronics with stopped working. Have seen on the internet that the shutter under the button corrodes easily so probably is.

    The first time I've been on a vehicle that can't withstand rain. At least I don't think it's good.
  • Excellent
    1 year ago
    Updated: 1 month ago
    Update 2019-07-29:
    Bought and installed this solid rear tire, bought already attached to the hub (tips only, no affiliation or the like) Works really well, much better than the previous model, even slightly softer. Will probably continue to run on these for a while. Returns on change.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M365-Solid-Tyre-Honeycomb-Version-2-0-with-WHEEL-HUB-included-SUMMER-SALE-F/254254705407?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX% 3AIT & _trksid = p2060353.m2749.l2649

    Update 2019-07-28:
    Received the M365 Pro dash, was relatively easy to install. Came with firmware DRV 151, tried to flash in BMS firmware, got without further ado. Then tried flashing in customfirmware for DRV ... It was not popular at all, got error code 10 as well as a cute little red warning symbol. Bluetooth could no longer connect. Solved this by disconnecting and then returning the black main switch under the battery.
    Installed "Generation 2, round holes in the tire" solid rear tire with LOT of effort (not worth IMO, risk damaging the wheel, available on eBay along with wheels / hubs if you want to test). Got to cut the tire for fastening. Vibrating the right crazy even better way, basically does not dampen at all, will not retain the Gen2 tire. Has a "Gen 3" solid tire on the way. But today I had probably only driven on pneumatic tires, even though they are a pain otherwise.
    There are apparently thicker tires and tubing to buy, or there are also 10 "tires to buy, but these seem to require a little more modification. Would be nice with shock absorbers on both wheels.
    Also adjusted the braking force by shortening the brake cable a chuckle, barely liked the bit before, now it makes much greater effect, and even locks the rear wheel at full brake.

    @trst, absolutely agree that this should not happen!
    But with that error code, it is most likely that the brake sensor cable accidentally loosened between the dashboard and the brake. It is a common JST connector under the silicone sump that holds the cables together, just below the dash. Not done on my ~ 200 km, but YMMV, literally.
    Maybe better be attached.

    Update 2019-07-02:
    ~ 18 months holding.
    Ordered original M365 Pro display / dashboard from Wish:
    (https://www.wish.com/product/5cfbef5d04a3df12eaf76125)

    It should be possible to change the dashboard relatively easily, but a firmware flash through the TTL adapter may be needed, will return after delivery.

    Got the first puncture the other day. Rear deck, which was lucky. Had a bit of a hurry, so thought of testing with only replenishing with more slime. It worked perfectly! ~ 75 ml sealed the tire in 3-4 minutes.

    Therefore, also ordered a solid rear tire on hubs from eBay UK, not the desire to hold and cook tires.
    (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M365-Solid-Tyre-Honeycomb-Version-2-0-with-WHEEL-HUB-included/254254705407?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438 .l2649)

    Will return after installation!

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    Original review follows:

    ~ 6 months holding. Tested during both winter and summer, definitely works better now in the summer, noticeable capacity difference on the battery, but probably think the system will feel better chilled during slightly colder periods, especially if you talk about this summer ... Yisch.

    Bought black model from Banggood for just under 3000 SEK, incl. all charges when it was shipped from the EU (came with UPS, undamaged, big damn package with good protection.)
    Driving distance at the time of writing: ~ 70 km.

    PSA: If you can, check with the seller that you are getting the newer 2-fuse variant, otherwise the following guide may be needed:
    https://mimod.ru/en_US/m365batteryfusefix/
    (Mine came with two fuses.)
    Estimate 1/2 fuse using model number:
    https://en.xiaomitoday.it/piu-potenza-con-il-firmware-mod-per-lo-scooter-elettrico-xiaomi-mijia-m365.html

    Update 2019-02-19: https://www.wired.com/story/xiaomi-scooter-hack/

    BEFORE FIRST USE: Run any M365 capable app (Android "Segway-Ninebot" or "Mi Home" and set Brake / Kinetic Energy Recovery System (KERS) Strength to Low. Some have reported that problems arise when combining strong KERS with a fully charged battery.

    TL; DR: Extremely satisfied with quality and features so far. On the run for fucking fun to drive. Neither too aggressive nor too tight acceleration curve. (And with a really heavy load of 185 cm, 90 kg and possibly 10+ kg in the backpack.)
    - Possibly a little shabby cushion already with air-filled tires. Not worried about personal injury, rather that already small ledges hit the scooter quite hard.
    * Only charges at 75-80% to maximize battery life, otherwise the final voltage is slightly high for lithium cells. (= <4.20 volts)
    * The included charger supplies ~ 65 Watts, which, with a battery capacity of 281 Wh, provides a charging time of around four hours. However, the batteries should withstand 1C, so you should be able to modify to charge faster if needed, if you stand with a brick for chargers.

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    Have made the following modifications, mostly for reinforcement and to ... Well ... You have never had enough hobbies:
    * Strategically glued all the cables accessible from the outside with wet room silicon alt. universal adhesive, to relieve cables and connectors.

    * 3D printed the following (just tips, all rights to the creators, thank them!):
    + Steering Backlash Corrector: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2436676 (0.4 mm worked perfectly when the scooter was new.)
    + Backlight Cable Protector: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2375311
    + Bag hook: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2734055
    Have your own collection at Thingiverse with accessories: https://www.thingiverse.com/Trekkie/collections/m365/page:1

    * Filled both tires with ~ 200 ml "Slime Tire Sealant" each (eBay, type 200 SEK), some kind of permanent puncture protection. Polyurethane based, possibly. Drive air-filled original tires. Also have the solid micropore tires at hand, but not particularly keen to change given the already low cushioning.

    * From "Curious Joe" (sells 3D-printed, laser-cut (?) And CNC-ade accessories to M365, sends from Sweden as fast delivery (has no connection / affiliate, informs only):
    + Protective Display Sticker (rain and splash screen)
    + Fender both front and back, glued with super glue.
    + Thickest Battery Cover with damper, 6 mm if I remember correctly. The original from Xiaomi is admittedly of recognized durable polycarbonate, but some seem to have had problems with the battery rattling around for a while and causing damage.
    Used blue Loctite (rather Biltema's equivalent) when fastening all screws.

    *** Resources / Info:

    The battery seems to be connected in 10S3P, using LG-made 18650 cells at ~ 2600 mAh with part number LGGBM261865, should it possibly be upgradable to INR18650MJ1 with capacity of ~ 3500 mAh?

    Drive now stock firmware (1.4.0) because range is of the utmost importance and custom firmware seems to focus most on performance. But consider throwing in custom firmware for ECO mode which is somewhat closer to Normal mode.
    Firmware unlock guide: http://techcat.ca/threads/how-to-remove-xiaomi-m365-speed-limit-firmware-unlock-guide.228/
    Update 2019-01-21: Switched to custom firmware with speed lowered to 20 km / h per current legislation. Took the opportunity to reduce KERS at the same time, thinking that each energy conversion introduces inefficiency (s).

    Unofficial User's Manual: https://www.dropbox.com/s/77vaidw53j9kxvl/manual-de-supervivencia-scooter-xiaomi.pdf?dl=1
    (Not mine, and seems to be only in Spanish, unfortunately chose French in high school half an eternity ago. But Google Translate works pretty well, and the pictures are good!)

    There is a thread on SweDroid: https://swedroid.se/forum/threads/xiaomi-m365-smart-electric-scooter.146085/

    PSA: Drive carefully and always responsibly so electric bikes and electric scooters remain legal and well respected by the public.
  • Perfect
    1 month ago
    Extremely smooth! Too heavy if you are going to wear it a lot during a day, but works perfectly for commuting. Swishar past buses and car queues!
  • Decent
    1 month ago
    Was very happy with mine until it stopped working after approx. 2 weeks (~ 40km), so-called Error 15.
    Positive:
    + Comfortable to stand on
    + More Apps to use, official or third party.
    + good build quality in general.
    + Can be programmed to go slower / faster, more power up hills
    + Lots of extra equipment to get your hands on

    Cons:
    - Collapsible board is a weak point. Gets slack with time and not very compact when packed (ES2 is much better)
    -Reach is approx. 10-12km in practice, gets incredibly slow when the battery is under 30%.
    -Curved to fill air on front wheels. Poor adapter spout which makes it impossible to measure air pressure without completely draining air (bought an extra adapter).
    -Mine broke down by himself. Got error 15 suddenly after 2 weeks, which came and went by itself.
  • Acceptable
    2 months ago
    Started pipe an error code after only 3 weeks. Something with the brake sensor ...
  • Very good
    2 months ago
    Clock electric kick to son. Feels solid and good quality. A little heavy but rather that than any plastic shit. Don't regret that I added a little extra and bought this than the very cheapest shit. Spare tires followed.
  • Perfect
    2 months ago
    Nice product. Tried something rented in Oslo gate like Voi or Tier, afterwards wondering to buy a self and bought Xiaomi from E-Wheels Drammen. Very pleased :) Xiaomi is as solid as other commercial products on Oslo's streets.
  • Perfect
    4 months ago
    Smoother than expected.
  • Very good
    5 months ago
    A little weak in the uphill, otherwise it performs as expected.
  • Excellent
    5 months ago
    Solidly built and simple and fun to drive