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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:04 PM

Hi There Im after some advice on components for a HTPC build. Looking to play high def movies, music and eventully record and watch tv. doesnt need to include harddrives or Operating systems.

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Posted 16 September 2014 - 09:41 PM

I'd probably go for an Intel Pentium or i3, probably with a single 4 GB stick of RAM (don't even need that much, but 2 GB sticks cost nearly as much as 4 GB sticks), and an H81 mobo (either microATX or Mini-ITX). The case is almost totally dependent on what you want. You might want a sound card if you're playing music with it, but it probably isn't necessary – however, if you do use one you'll want a microATX board rather than Mini-ITX.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 11:49 AM

Something like this?

While the board comes with S/PDIF and 7.1ch audio outputs, if you're already using a reference-quality audio system then you have the option of using a sound card for 'slightly' better audio quality. And if you're recording content and doing other things at the same time then you'll need the extra threads/clock speed from the CPU to handle the load.

I seriously doubt you'll need a GPU for this build, as the IGPs from both Intel and AMD are powerful enough for 1080p streaming/playback. The TV tuner listed is a rather old model, but it has 1080p playback and 1080i recording, and hasn't needed an update yet, so it seems good.

Agreeing with LinusUser on the RAM, as I'm currently only using 4GB of RAM on my PC (only because I haven't bought some more yet) and it games and renders audio fine. But only if you max the RAM cap after running the computer for some time you should get some more, preferably the same model if you can still get it.

The PSU is an OEM unit designed for system builders who need power efficiency, but is made my Seasonic so you know it won't blow up anytime soon, if ever. And 348W on the 12V rail is plenty for a system without a discrete GPU. But you can get a retail unit if you want, just make sure you check the Recommended PSU List before you buy.
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Posted 17 September 2014 - 01:51 PM

If you just require some pretty basic stuff, and don't need Netflix, YouTube etc, the you should consider a raspberry pi.

I've got one setup for my home theater.

I don't really know about watching/recording TV on it, but im sure it would be possible.

Using 5.1 can be tricky though, and storage would have to be external.

But its a pretty good budget solution.
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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:10 PM

Just wondered if i could save some money on the setup and get the power supply and case at a later date(within 3 months) so just start with Motherboard, Ram, CPU. I currently have two power supplies Cheap ones from computers i have lying around and wondered if they would power the system ok. they are Powerman 300w (ipp300aj2) & one that has dr data atx 350w piv on it?


Someone also recommended Intel Unlocked Pentium 20th Anniversary G3258 3.2Ghz LGA1150 3MB Unlocked Processor to go with the motherboard, what is the benifit of going with the one listed?

Thanks for your help/advice

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:27 PM

Something like this?

While the board comes with S/PDIF and 7.1ch audio outputs, if you're already using a reference-quality audio system then you have the option of using a sound card for 'slightly' better audio quality. And if you're recording content and doing other things at the same time then you'll need the extra threads/clock speed from the CPU to handle the load.

I seriously doubt you'll need a GPU for this build, as the IGPs from both Intel and AMD are powerful enough for 1080p streaming/playback. The TV tuner listed is a rather old model, but it has 1080p playback and 1080i recording, and hasn't needed an update yet, so it seems good.

Agreeing with LinusUser on the RAM, as I'm currently only using 4GB of RAM on my PC (only because I haven't bought some more yet) and it games and renders audio fine. But only if you max the RAM cap after running the computer for some time you should get some more, preferably the same model if you can still get it.

The PSU is an OEM unit designed for system builders who need power efficiency, but is made my Seasonic so you know it won't blow up anytime soon, if ever. And 348W on the 12V rail is plenty for a system without a discrete GPU. But you can get a retail unit if you want, just make sure you check the Recommended PSU List before you buy.

That TV card is rather expensive, and it isn't supported on Linux if that is an issue.

If you just require some pretty basic stuff, and don't need Netflix, YouTube etc, the you should consider a raspberry pi.

I've got one setup for my home theater.

I don't really know about watching/recording TV on it, but im sure it would be possible.

Using 5.1 can be tricky though, and storage would have to be external.

But its a pretty good budget solution.

For recording, it would have to be via a USB tuner – assuming the drivers and such will work on ARM, which I'm sure some will.

All sound would have to be through HDMI.

And you'd have to run Linux, which is fine by me.

Just wondered if i could save some money on the setup and get the power supply and case at a later date(within 3 months) so just start with Motherboard, Ram, CPU. I currently have two power supplies Cheap ones from computers i have lying around and wondered if they would power the system ok. they are Powerman 300w (ipp300aj2) & one that has dr data atx 350w piv on it?


Someone also recommended Intel Unlocked Pentium 20th Anniversary G3258 3.2Ghz LGA1150 3MB Unlocked Processor to go with the motherboard, what is the benifit of going with the one listed?

Thanks for your help/advice

I don't actually know anything about those PSUs, but I'd almost guarantee that the best place for them is the bin.

That CPU can be overclocked, but the i3 has hyperthreading. Either would be fine, but don't go for that Pentium if you're not overclocking.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:46 PM

They may be fine, but something like this is so cheap you'd may as well get a replacement unless the budget is really tight.

If you're not OCing, grab a regular Pentium like the G3240.
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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:54 PM

I plan on upgrading the power supply to the ones listed in a couple of months time, I just wanted to check if any of the two i have will do until then. will add a tv tuner and other items when i get the new power supply so would just be running the mother board, hard drives (2), CPU and ram.?? What would be the main difference between the Intel core i3 4360 and the, I3 3240? is it worth the extra $40

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 05:59 PM

Would this sort of thing achieve what you want? (minus the extras)

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 06:09 PM

Would this sort of thing achieve what you want? (minus the extras)


Would do yes, But head towards the motherboard listed in a previous post as it doesn't require a external sound card

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 06:56 PM

I plan on upgrading the power supply to the ones listed in a couple of months time, I just wanted to check if any of the two i have will do until then. will add a tv tuner and other items when i get the new power supply so would just be running the mother board, hard drives (2), CPU and ram.?? What would be the main difference between the Intel core i3 4360 and the, I3 3240? is it worth the extra $40

The second of those two CPUs is an older model, and I would definitely get the former.

Edit: I mean out of those two. See below.

Edited by LinuxUser, 17 September 2014 - 08:03 PM.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 07:25 PM

I would not drop over $200 on an i3, if for $40 more you can get a true quad i5 (even if you didn't really need the i5).

As for the Powerman (Inwin) PSU, It'll be fine for now. It's not good, but it's also not horrible. Here's a review from 2006 http://www.xbitlabs....win-psu2_6.html

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:04 PM

No, nor would I spend $200 on an i3. I'd get a 4150 / 4160 for about $150. The extra 100 MHz / 200 MHz isn't worth that much.

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Posted 17 September 2014 - 08:18 PM

You may have misread me. The G3240 is a socket 1150 dual core Haswell Pentium. Don't confuse that with the old socket 1155 Ivy Bridge Core i3 3240.

Either grab the i3 4130 for $130, or the Pentium G3240 for ~$85. I'd lean towards the i3.
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Posted 18 September 2014 - 06:15 PM

AMD Athlon 5350 2.05GHz Socket AM1 https://pricespy.co....t.php?p=2538475
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ASRock AM1H-ITX (downside only 2 sata ports) https://pricespy.co....t.php?p=2571440


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Posted 18 September 2014 - 06:37 PM

AMD Athlon 5350 2.05GHz Socket AM1 https://pricespy.co....t.php?p=2538475 and motherboard of choice ASRock AM1H-ITX (downside only 2 sata ports) https://pricespy.co....t.php?p=2571440

Um, https://pricespy.co....t.php?p=2643897 and https://pricespy.co.n...?p=2121122 would be fairly similar price-wise, and is way faster. I'm not sure how the IGP compares, but it doesn't really matter. And you could always go to the G3258 and a mobo that supports overclocking, and be averaging 3x – 4x faster instead of about 2x.

That is fairly similar (slightly better, but it depends on the benchmark) to the Atom-based quad-core Celeron J1900.

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 07:47 PM

And you could always go to the G3258 and a mobo that supports overclocking, and be averaging 3x – 4x faster instead of about 2x.


I've moved to the G3258 at 4.4GHZ on a Gigabyte H81M-HD3 as my daily use machine. You can even use the cheap Asus H81M-E https://pricespy.co....t.php?p=2121122 to overclock, so there should be no excuse not to get the G3258 if you want something quite capable for cheap.
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